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." thank you. gregg: this lawmakers do not reach a deal with regard to the fiscal cliff cuts will go into the defense department. >> reporter: the whole package of spending cuts is $1.2 trillion, half to the defense department. the army, navy, air force marines would take equal cuts according to one analyst who says the impact on the military overall will be, quote, very serious. >> the pentagon and the departments are already in financial trouble, because there has already been a $480 billion cut that is being applied right now as we speak. to take another cut on top of that is devastating. >> reporter: it's not just the military itself that will take a hit, also the defense industry, defense contractors, private companies that do work for the pentagon. one democratic congressman in northern virginia whose district maybe hit the hardest by all of this says it could mean layoffs. >> the large defense contractors will probably be okay, they have significant cash reserves, most of them. the smaller contractors would have trouble getting their lines of credit extended, trouble keeping t
to deal with the long-term fiscal health of the country which is what the fiscal cliff was supposed to be an incentive to do, we're expecting now that this is just some measure to avert the fiscal cliff which is the tax hikes, the spending cuts, each if they deal with the spending cuts and we're waiting to see what the measure will look like. i know what a hard-hitting white house reporter you are. i want to know whether it's apple kay, pumpkin pie or peekan pie for the president and first family on christmas day. any news on the menu? >> reporter: no, i am still waiting to find out. maybe we'll find out a little later today. you don't frequently find out until they have just released it, until the white house releases the information so we'll be standing by to let you know how the president spends his holiday. nothing on his public schedule, but, you know, he normally visits with troops so we're expecting he might do that today here in hawaii. >> that would be a wonderful way to spend christmas day. brianna keilar live from honolulu, hawaii, thanks. >>> other stories in the news, a
obama and congressional leaders cut their vacations short, to deal with fiscal cliff negotiations. they have five days to make a deal. and housing continues to be the bright spot in the u.s. economy: home prices post their biggest advance in two years. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! christmas may be over, but the holiday shopping season
down toward the fiscal cliff deadline and looming tax hikes and spending cuts, that will impact nearly every single american we are just hours away from a crucial white house meeting of the president obama and leaders from the house and senate will sit down for their first face-to-face since november! but what can they hope to accomplish with so little time left, and at this point do they even want to come up with a solution? joining us oklahoma congressman james langford, incoming chairman of republican policy committee and serves on the house oversight and budget committees. congressman, are we going over the cliff? >> well we certainly hope so, hope not actually, but trying to get this resolved. the house as you know full well passed all of our sequestration documents in may. passed all of our tax documents in august and we have waited for the senate all this time and for the president frankly all this time. frustrating for the house did all our work early and be at the point we never hoped to be at. jon: when senate majority leader harry reid says speaker boehner, leader of the hou
the fiscal cliff, just four days left before we go over the edge triggers tax hikes, spending cuts that could send the nation back into recession. the president calling for members of the congress the back. a gang of six attending. vice president biden, harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority leader harry reid said he doesn't see how it can get done by january 1st. we heard from president obama before he left from his vacation that he was optimistic. logistically the white house will tell you it's possible. when you listen to what you're hearing some of these congressional leaders say, there's a lot of posturing laying blame to the other side if we do go over the cliff. take a listen. >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we are here in wa
sales was uncertainty about the fiscal cliff, tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect next year. if lawmakers don't reach a deal to avoid it consumers could see higher taxes eating into their paychecks. even online sales suffered compared to past years of double-digit growth this year online holiday sales rose only about 8% compared to nearly 16% last year. lack of consumer confidence means this shopping season could be the weakest since the recession in 2008 when sales actually shrank. >> consumers need to have more confidence. right now it's more of an uncertain way for the first half of 2013 so i think everyone has thought going into the year. >> for businesses, the holiday shopping season officially ends december 31st, and retailers are hoping to salvage some profits by offering deep discounts until then. the president of the national retail federation is still optimistic. he estimates holiday sales growth will be about 3.5% to 4% this year. rebecca and jeff? >> thanks elaine. it's interesting, macy's and target report next week so we're going to hea
and some spending cuts of the fiscal cliff. cry from a grand bargain that democrats and republicans were hopeful about. will playe redskins tonight. the redskins can still get in with a loss, but they will need help in the early game. how many layers of burgundy and gold will you need to wear? dave is standing by. bulk if you are going out there. the few women snow showers from yesterday's storm. in the sunshine. 33 at dulles. we have windchill values in the 20's. l be a chilly day from to end.g our high temperatures will be .0's 2 40's about 33 degrees. the winds will start to subside in the overnight hours. lots of layers of burgundy and gold. of the year, seasonally cool. 42-46. may be a mix of rain and snow. thereafter, keep that lead burgundy.
about leading to the fiscal cliff. you have the payroll tax cut that will expire, and nobody is talking about extending back. that is one that will give it the biggest bang for the buck economic allies. it helps americans the most. host: come out of the cliff are we cutting off, and how much will it -- and how much will we be going off? guest: you're staring at 1 cliff surely, that is 2% of every wage earner but to every $110,000 or so. that will have a pretty dramatic economic impact. beyond that, you'll be approaching a debt ceiling cliff which is another standoff. i assume that is where we will get most of the discussion on spending cuts. that seems to be absent from whatever deal they will be talking about. guest: another way to think about it -- if there is no deal at all, the $600 billion in cliff-related tax increases and spending cuts, if they have some kind of deal, we're talking about $200 billion or so. what we're talking about here is probably the wrong fiscal policy given the time. something in between that, maybe the minimum of $200 billion and the maximum of $600 billion.
off the fiscal cliff it will be a small package of some tax increases, some spending cuts, but it's not going to put the economy into a recession. so what i've been telling clients is let's just hold the line right here. let's not sell precipitously. let's wait until we see the outcome. but right now i think there's a real good chance that the outcome could be positive or will muddle our way through this significant problem. >> ifill: let me ask you a question which politicians kept bringing up during this last election which is the that the uncertainty is what makes people nervous in the business world. is this the kind of uncertainty they were talking about? >> it absolutely is. you mentioned before the retail sales numbers for this christmas season and the retail sales numbers for this christmas season were very poor, very soft. this is both individuals and individuals affecting companies making decisions and it's really largely driven by their significant uncertainty about what's going to be their tax rate in 2013. they're really postponing any spending and it clearly affects
cliff occurs. >> ifill: the across-the-board cuts. why does it work that way? >> in the event no deal is made and we do have the automatic cuts known as sequestration starting in january, federal employees face job loss and in some situations-- certainly in the department of defense-- but throughout the federal government people will be furloued, forced to take unaid days o, anywhere from 20 to 50 days. we really don't know. it depends in part on the agency and it depends in part on how much of the remainder of the fiscal year these cuts are squished into. so it's -- that's one bad situation. and then the so-called grand bargains and deals, many of those include provisions that would cut federal retirement benefits and extend the current pay freeze for an additional three years so that federal employees would go five full years witout anpai a justments. >> ifill: hugh johnson, if you were an investor or a business owner and you're watching wall street watch the fiscal cliff debate what are you telling them? are people nervous? >> well, even though i think there's been some positive th
with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal.
a deal to avoid the massive automatic tax hikes and spending cuts known as the fiscal cliff. >> president obama spent christmas day visiting with troops in hawaii. >> while back in washington uncertainty about the looming fiscal cliff continues. there has been to communication between republicans and democrats about how to avoid going over the cliff. before the christmas break, speaker john boehner was unable to get enough support from respects to pass his plan and help said it was up to the white house and the senate to avert the cliff. so now harry reid is believed to be crafting a plan of his own. it's expected to extend bush-era tax cuts. it would also include short-term spending cuts instead of the massive cuts that would occur if there is no deal. it would also patch up the alternative minimum tax that will hit even more middle class families and schedule a drop off for doctors. >> if republicans do give in and support the deal being put together by harry reid that deal is expected to be far less favorable than the potential deal they had been work
hit the fiscal cliff. what happens to your bottom line if you do? january 1st all the bush tax cuts will expire, all of them with taxes going up an average of $1,600 per household. the payroll tax holiday also expires, that means the tax burden will rise an average of $700 per household. extended unemployment benefits, the ones we were talking about with lisa expire, so collection of unemployment benefits will shrink from 79 or 99 weeks back to 26 weeks in six months. the medicare doc fix expires, a 27% cut in physician payments and the alternative minimum tax will expand to 27 million more americans for whom it was not intended. obama care taxes hit, a 0.9% jump in medicare payroll taxes for those earning $200,000 or more, that is likely to happen regardless of whether or not there's any fix. i bring in senator richard blumenthal, a democrat from connecticut. thanks for joining us. we have five days to go. you think we'll get a deal. >> i'm hopeful. there's sufficient time to reach a deal if we use the common ground we have and that common ground is nobody wants to go over the fisc
that affect the fiscal cliff? host: more than four years? caller: does that affect our physical cliff? host: that is a larger issue of taxes and spending cuts. caller: thank you. host: bob on the independent line from florida. caller: nobody should worry about the fiscal cliff. asey have everybody's ira's hostage. ira will have to buy ies.sur they are not worried about the budget. everybody that has an ira basically it will have nothing because interest rates will go up so high on the treasury bills in the coming decade. be heldy's ira will hostage. i took money and i put it into gold. i did not pay any taxes on it. possession is 9/10 of the law. let them come and find it. every politician should not take a paycheck. they do not deserve it. they have been bringing our country down. host: in look at what happened 1st.ing jan. uary host: that will happen in january 1 if congress fails to reach a compromise, even a short-term compromise. dan on the phone from massachusetts. caller: thank you for taking my call. i would like to know how many millionaires there are in this country versus the num
until we all go over the fiscal cliff which would mean everyone's taxes will go up and sharp spending cuts will go effect that could drive our economy back into recession. to abc news white house correspondent jonathan karl filling in today for george stephanopoulos as host of abc's "this week." >> hey, jon, good morning. i know today and tomorrow obviously hugely important. can you sort of walk us through the potential order of operations? what could we see play out today and tomorrow? >> well, it is right down to the wire, dan. what's happening right now is harry reid and mitch mcconnell, the top democrat and republican in the senate are still negotiating their staffs at this hour. they are supposed to be working until about 3:00 this afternoon when the plan would be presented to both caucuses. as we understand what they are talking about is the bare minimum. basically the senate negotiating to extend those tax cuts for everybody making under $250,000 a year and do extend unemployment benefits also they're talking about trying to do something to stop the automatic spending cuts that
the fiscal cliff deadline just in the nick of time. if not, the consequences will be severe. more than a half trillion dollars in automatic tax hikes and spending cuts, not that lawmakers are necessarily feeling the urgency. congress is at least officially in session today but house members, most still at home haven't even been called back to the capitol. aides on both sides including republican leaders haven't spoken in days. >> washington remains in the same fiscal cliff clitalks. >> reporter: senator leader harry reid and john boehner are both frosty saying it's in the other guy's court saying to avert the largest tax hike in history and reid saying it's time for house republicans to put middle class families first. >> if we go past no deal, the markets are likely to decline in a significant way and involve most americans and they don't want to have themselves blamed for that. >> reporter: already stocks have dropped three days in a row over fiscal cliff fears. from wall street to main street, it is building. >> both parties to are to blame if they don't come up with something. >> we are r
the spending cuts. what happens if we go off the fiscal cliff for a few days. >> not much is my understanding. it's much more what the market psyche will do and with respect with the tax hikes and cuts, the hit people take is not as much as the rhetoric suggested early on. what weather it's enough to get back to negotiating things, i agree with you that we will go over the deadline. that's the big question of what kind of political ramifications we will have. you will have a chunk more on the payroll. there is a cut because of the sequestration. >> all of us are aware that most people at the top of fortune 500 companies look at these claims saying this is ridiculous. you couldn't run any business the way they try to run the country. is there any immediate impact on the markets next week with their inability to get anything done? >> yes. that's the biggest impact by far. yes, the payroll tax will take effect and that will be one of the most immediate things we see, but it takes two weeks to adjust your paychecks and spend more time repairing and restoring and trying to solve that. the market d
are 10 hours before we reached the so-called fiscal cliff. that government-imposed deadline for tax cuts, also sequestration. they will go into effect for 2013 unless a compromise is reached. the president says we are close, but there is no final deal. some of our twitter comments -- richard is joining us from ohio. republican line. caller: thank you. i do not understand what is going on with the unemployment rate and everything else. i have been looking for work for nine months now. the only thing around here is dishwasher, stuff like that. my wife is disabled. there is no money in the household. and yet, they keep wanting to go up and up and up. i have no idea what to do to support my family. i know there are millions of americans out there, people in worse shape than i am. i have no idea where to go next. host: richard, have you talk to your members of congress? caller: >> no, i have not. host: do you think any agreement lawmakers make today will make a difference? caller: honestly, i do not think it will make much of the difference. i thought we was doing good. i got injured on my jo
this all along, go off the fiscal cliff. >> i think that he sees a lot of cuts to the military, which the democrats have been after for a long time. and then he gets to do what he loves to do, which is blame republicans. my concern is that i actually see financial problems for our nation at the bottom of the cliff. the president was really interested in the level of the debt we have in this country, the $16 trillion, we would have had a budget pass the senate sometime in the last three years. he proposed a budget, none of the democrats even voted for it. >> juliet: remember, they're having a meeting in a few hours and with all the sniping going back and forth, particularly from janer and harry reid, they'll be in that little room together. it should be interesting. >> eric: brass sew makes a good point and i agree that president obama probably wanted to go over the cliff from the very beginning, but i don't agree where he said at the bottom of the fiscal cliff is something bad for america. it will be tough medicine to take, we've been talking about it, spending cuts to defense, no one
, if we go over the f 'tis cal cliiscal cl should buy some room. the fiscal cliff is a cut in taxes and a cut in spending which should relieve some of the spending toward the debt limit. it is a factor in terms of long range planning for the united states government. but actually going over the cliff might buy some more time. so i think what secretary geithner was doing was sort of issuing a warning saying we should take care of this now. whatever the plan is in the last five days or even if it's right after the new year should probably take into account the fact we're going to need more room under that debt ceiling at some point. >> jonathan allen, we'll rely on you throughout this crisis to see what's going on. thanks for joining us this morning. >> take care, drew. >>> he was hoping he'd be home by christmas but former president george h.w. bush is still in intensive care at a houston hospital. he's got an elevated fever. the nation's 41st president is on a liquid diet. he's listed as guarded. he's the 88-year-old bush coping with christmas in the hospital? well, his spokesman qu
plans to leave hawaii this evening to return to washington d.c. tomorrow to work on the fiscal cliff deal before the year ends. house and senate members are expected to reconvene. without an agreement, automatic tax increases for everyone and deep spending cuts will be triggered by the new year. the main dispute continues to be over taxes. >>> if you want to play the slots at 2:00 in the morning, starting tomorrow you can. maryland live casino is set to kick off its first 24-hour gaming day. once the casino opens at 8:00 in the morning, it will be open around the clock. maryland live is also prepared to immediately begin making the modifications required to add table games to the floor as soon as the regulation office makes it official. >>> a new 1200-seat auditorium is set to open in ocean city in 2014. it's going to be located at the ronald e. powell convention center. construction is set to begin in the fall on the $14 million project. >>> well, some netflix customers not too happy. they wanted to curl up on the couch and watch a movie on christmas eve. they were just out of lu
following president obama's announcement that he would cut his vacation short to deal with fiscal cliff negotiations. hoping that the real estate market would bolster the economy in 2013. we are learning that holiday sales this year were the weakest since 2008. they had a grim outlook for a fiscal cliff deal and the impact of the tragedy in newtown. on the radar this morning, chilling details in the christmas eve firefighter ambush. we could find out soon who will be saying aloha to the senate and a broken record in the house of representatives. new details out of webster, new york. william spangler set a car and house on fire and ambushed firefighters, opening fire on them as they arrive on the scene. police found a note he left behind saying he wanted to burn down the neighborhood and do what i like doing best, killing people. a convicted felon who spent 17 years in prison for killing his grandmother with a hammer was armed with three firearms including a bushmaster, the same gun used in the school massacre. he may have killed his sister and the home had human remains believed to be h
rushes home to washington, cutting short his hawaiian vacation in order to resume talks on the fiscal cliff. there are just five days remaining to strike a deal. we'll get to all that in a moment, but first, we begin with a massive winter storm that made holiday travel miserable for millions of americans, including me! winter storm euclid -- what, are we naming snowstorms now? euclid. you can lid? well, euclid blanketed much of the eastern half of the country yesterday, dropping blizzard-like conditions and record snowfall in the midwest, and by late afternoon, euclid moved northeast, bringing traffic to a standstill, forcing the cancellation of more than 1,500 flights on one of the busiest travel days of the year. the weather channel's mike seidel has more on the massive christmas storm. >> reporter: a major snowstorm has dumped over a foot of snow across parts of the midwest. indiana got hit hard. high winds adding to the misery there. >> it's a lot better with the four-wheel-drive, but it, yeah, it's definitely a doozy out there. >> reporter: and there's lots of snow in little rock
all know is coming, the fiscal cliff. the combination of tax hikes and spending cuts hit in just five days. you need to take a deep breath. you probably won't notice much, if anything right away, even if congress and president can't reach a deal. jessica yellin is joining us. i have not talked to a soul in the last week who believes that they are actually going to get a deal before january 1st. what is the temperature at the white house at this point? >> reporter: negotiations, candy. what do you mean by negotiations? i can actually report right now, thanks to our own ted baron and dana bash that harry reid, the senate majority leader, and minority leader mitch mcconnell are meeting right now as we speak. perhaps there could be incremental progress. but as you well know, time is running out and the president today spent his day behind closed doors. he did cut his vacation short after he came home from hawaii to at least be here and try to put on some kind of an agreement and as we go over the fiscal cliff, both sides seem to be working hard to do that. the president spoke with congres
to wondered $50,000. investigators say the fire was accidental. >> america may be going over the fiscal cliff. that prediction from the senate majority leader today after u.s. senators and president obama cut their vacation sure to return to washington. but there is no deal yet and there's a lot of criticism of house members who are still at home, at least until sunday night. jennifer jackson has the latest. >> the senate is back to work as the clock ticks and america gets closer to going over the fiscal cliff. president obama has also returned to washington. house members are still home for the holidays peeping >> i cannot imagine their consciences, wherever they are around the country. we are trying to get something done. >> harry reid is blaming house speaker john boehner for the stalemate and predicts new deal will happen before the end of the year. house republicans have rejected any compromise where the wealthiest americans no longer get a tax cut. others are still optimistic. >> these deals come together at the last minute. to paraphrase ronald reagan, there has got to be a pony here s
is cutting short his vacation to hawaii. he is returning to deal with economic matters, the fiscal cliff. if his death has been quietly talking with senate democrats are the christmas holiday to come up with a planned to avert or prevent the cliff. in the meantime, the senate does plan a session tomorrow. perhaps we will hear more about an agreement before the new year's deadline. the house is due tomorrow as well. we do not have an agenda and there. with the fiscal cliffhanging out there heading into the year 2013, do you have optimism or pessimism heading into the new ? you can also send in your comment via twitter, a post a comment on facebook, or write us an e-mail. the theme of optimism or lack of it is prevalent in the papers. wednesday with congress and the president heading back to washington. here is a headline on "usa today." in the wall street journal -- if the in "the washington post." we welcome your phone calls. we will get to them in a moment. we did find another piece at politico. there you have it in the papers this morning about people being optimistic or pessimistic ab
to be on popularity over the next few weeks if we go over the fiscal cliff and he ends up making cuts and so forth. what is going to happen is ultimately if this is is a success or a failure, it's his legacy that's going to tell the story that doesn't come down for republican's back against the walls this mess that krauthammer pointed out. what the republicans are doing mess in the house putting up this plan b and may get less than plan b they couldn't get a vote on plan b. senator corker thinks this whole thing he mentioned last night on greta is really too much spending keeping the spending and getting the tax increases, listen. >> it's a shame in this nation where every developed country in the world knows that our greatest threat is our fiscal solvency that you would have to have leverage points. you would think people would sit down and solve the problem because we know it is our greatest threat. that's not the case here. we have a president who has not laid out a plan. he is obviously a spendaholic. time quickly running out for a deal washington will be working all weekend in hopes of reachi
of the fiscal cliff. >> juliet: love it. >> dave: might cut your paycheck. we're not kidding. more info on that. >> clayton:'s he one of our favorite television neurotic guys, he's neurotic in real life, larry david. >> you came by the hall, wouldn't let me get by wouldn't let you get by me? >> my appointment was 11:30, yours is 11:45. >> clayton: turns out being neurotic may actually be good for you. we'll explain. "fox & friends" hour two starts right now. ♪ >> oh. >> juliet: why is that good news? why are you smiling about that neurotic thing? >> i agree with larry david on a lot of things. stop and chat, laboring about it all day, stop and chat. >> juliet: i move it along and the elevator is the worst. >> dave: stop and chat and you want to talk to clayton and you get natalie. >> clayton: for 40 minutes you're stuck in a conversation. we'll have more on that coming up. >> dave: it's seven o'clock eastern time and now what that means. >> clayton: how many hours left. >> dave: starbucks is open. >> clayton: starbucks is open. >> juliet: lisa, where are you? >> our day can continue. and we'
and a whole suite of things that were part of the fiscal cliff that aren't going to be touched. we'll have the debt ceiling rehash, all of these things come back in the first couple of weeks. >> we have a timeline issue here, we just -- a few days away, things have to -- things don't move quickly in washington as we know. there are rules in both houses of when things can come up, how much time has to pass for debate. they have to change rules to get it through quickly. even if senate comes up with the deal. mcconnell and harry reid come up with the deal. they accept it to the house on sunday night, monday morning. what are the chances of them getting their ducks in a row, boehner getting his ducks in a row and us still being able to avoid the krif? >> right. we should have a better sense of that by tomorrow afternoon when they start to reconvene. speaker boehner made it clear at the meeting at the white house on friday, anything that the senate passes will be considered by the house, might be amended, might be changed a bit. has to go back to the senate quick for changes. but he said will
systems on millions of cars. there has been a lot of talk about the so-called fiscal cliff lately, obviously because it's looming. because it effects just about every american in our country. president obama cutting short his christmas vacation today to continue trying to hash out a deal with congress. they have until next week to get it done before people will start to feel the pain in their paychecks. that's all of us. molly henneberg with the news now live from washington. molly? >> harris, as you were saying taxes are going up for almost everyone immediately if we go over the fiscal cliff. it likely will take a toll on already stretched family bench. take a look at the numbers from the tax policy center. for those whose taxes do go up this is the average tax hit family also take on top of what they already pay in taxes. below 10,000 they will pay an average of about $300 more. look down the chart a bit. those who make between 40 and 50,000 they will have to pay an extra $1,700 more. looking at the next set of numbers for wage earners, 50 to 75,000. they will have to find an ex
to extend all the tax cuts for two years. by the way, that is why we are facing this new fiscal cliff. it is infuriating to business owners. i have been talking to a lot of them last couple of weeks. this is banana republic type of politics. no one knows what it will look like. it makes it impossible for businesses to do planning, purchasing equipment, hiring workers. you are seeing the impact on the stock market already where we have a lousy 10 days with stocks because everybody is in this kind of state of fear and trepidation that we are going to go over this cliff. i will give you a sliver of good news, i talked to some of my sources in the republican leadership and they say that the president sounded a little bit more conciliatory in this last phone call that they had. and they still hold out hope that we might get a deal before the stroke of midnight. and the ball comes down in new york. gregg: you are talking about huge amounts of tax increases. you know, some people, i have e-mails -- i was loaded with e-mails yesterday from folks. firefighters and teachers, i'm going to see 15
will be on washington, d.c. once again, here on wall street. the concerns about us going over the fiscal cliff, impacting the european markets as well. concern that if we go over, we'll see higher taxes and automatic spending cuts, something that is expected to impact the u.s. economy. that's bleeding over into the european markets this morning. the s&p 500, which along with the dow and the nasdaq are weaker this morning, down for the fifth straight session. of course, yesterday was really a whipsaw session with the markets reacting tny kind of headlines across about any progress or lack thereof on the fiscal cliff talks. so we're keeping watch on that. nevertheless, while we've seen weakness later, the consensus among traders that i speak to and whose notes i read, et cetera, they say they are expecting some kind of maybe band-aid deal that will limit the effects, if, indeed, we go over -- or a band-aid deal, not a grand bargain on lawmakers, to avoid the fiscal cliff, before that january 1st deadline. these are some of the sectors that we're keeping watch on. financials were among the worst
up with a small, kick-the-can down the road bill, that creates another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. how irresponsible is that? >> reporter: and does washington still, the stock market burns. dropping for a sixth-straight day under this uncertainty. americans are burning up, too. >> this is america. they should be working for the american people. >> can't believe we got this close. >> get in a room and don't come out of the room until you've got this thing taken care of. >> reporter: what the senate leaders hope to do is put together this deal, bring it to the senate tomorrow. then, the house comes back in session tomorrow night. they can vote on any deal passed by the senate. but bianna, no one is holding their breath here in washington. >> no one is, indeed. >>> for more on the big white house meeting, we want to bring in john avlon, political columnist at "the daily beast." a busy man covering all of this. how do you see this playing out? >> we're three days out. nothing focuses than the prospect of being hanged. today, bianna, is the key day. saturday, tod
over the fiscal cliff must start in the senate. >> gretchen: a lot of people were upset because members of congress just can't seem to get their act together or the president, depending on which side of the fence that you're on of the they were upset that they went on christmas vacations. the president went to hawaii and members of congress went home. both sides said we're going to come back to washington because we've got to solve the situation. i think what so many people are frustrated about is this is an ongoing situation. it's like every year we come to this point where we're talk being this cliff and this is what i think has angered so many voters and why congress has such a low approval rating. >> rick: they also got to this point because of their last time they did this. it was the last debt creating fight that deleted this thing. now they gave themselves an amount of time to work on it you and thought maybe last week there was a little progress being made. turns out there is not. we're back to exactly where we started at and we're eight days out now. >> clayton: you're right ab
not going to set aside the 1.2 trillion in cuts. >> the president spoke out about the dpfiscal cliff on friday focusing his goals on middle class tax cuts not some kind of bargains. his supporters should find it no surprise to any one he wants people above tacks. >> he won 60 percent of the voters stharp for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> the focus shift to go the u.s. senate where few republicans are backing democratic plan to take some kind of actions before the deadline. >> they continue to give opinions rick warren had an opinion. >> he said it is time to stop placing blame and start fixing things. listen to this. >> i think there's plenty of blame to go around. i would say this we need to stop blaming. you can't mix the problem while you were fixing the blame. i have trained leaders all over the world. one of the things i teach leadership is leaders accept the blame and give away the credit. >> every time you are blaming you are being blamed. i wish they would stop blaming and start fixing the problem. >> head over to stories you can bank on this morning. >>
spending, what do you do? >> set the fiscal cliff aside for one moment. you've done extensive research on recovery from recessions. where are we in the current recovery? what in your estimation does 2013 look like from an economic standpoint. >> fairly normal from world war ii financial crisis, housing recovers on cue five or six years later. the good news is that there's stable underlying growth. the bad news is you don't get the zoom you got out of it during the depression. >> we're in year five of a seven year process. >> more than seven years. >> last time you were here you said we were half way through regardless of who wins in 2012. the next four years would not look much better than the past four years. >> we're going to have, i don't know if not very much better than the past four but we're not going to have fantastic growth. unemployment will take many more years to feel normal, so we have many years left in the recovery but hopefully in two or three years we feel like we're moving there and not at the starting point. >> let's talk about the global picture here. you have slow
republicans are fighting to have a balanced point of view for the fiscal cliff. if the president wants to spend $one. 6 trillion, he should cut the spending by that. it should be 400,000 jobs. people who give us jobs are the people that earn $400,000 and can afford to have a family and pay for employees. i am very grateful for your mentioning the fact he went on 310 campaigns. i was wondering what he was doing when he was not in the office leading. now i understand he was out campaigning. when he does campaign, have you been able to figure out how much he has cost the american taxpayer for the trips he takes? in hawaii, they mentioned he is lazy because he is from hawaii. i am wondering if he spends all his time campaigning. host: it sounds like he might spend time there because it is warmer than washington, d.c. caller: he does not work that much. when he was in chicago in the senate, in the illinois senate, he did not work that hard. he was only marked present. i did not believe that. now i see the way he operates. he does not seem to be doing his job. that is why he spent $6 trillio
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